What's Next for Crypto ETFs, ETFs vs DATs, Crypto ETF Explosion & Institutional Inflows | James Seyffart
🎯 Summary
[{“key_takeaways”=>[“The initial Bitcoin ETFs have been an unprecedented success, accumulating over $55 billion in assets, even accounting for GBTC outflows.”, “Ethereum ETFs are also seeing tremendous success, becoming the second-biggest launch of all time, though lagging behind Bitcoin’s initial performance.”, “ETFs are viewed as the most capital-efficient and regulated way to gain beta exposure to the underlying assets, unlike DATs which introduce additional costs and structural risks (like inheriting old corporate liabilities).”, “DATs (Digital Asset Trusts) are not seen as competitors to ETFs; Seyffart compares them to banks that can potentially trade at a premium to Net Asset Value (NAV) if they generate yield or use capital strategically.”, “A major advantage for DATs currently is the ability to earn staking yield on ETH, which US-based ETH ETFs currently cannot offer, though this is expected to change.”, “Analysis of 13F filings shows Registered Investment Advisors (RIAs) are the largest known holders of the Bitcoin ETFs, followed by hedge funds, suggesting long-term allocation strategies that may dampen volatility.”, “The next wave of institutional adoption is expected to come from advisors who have not yet onboarded crypto products, while large pensions and endowments may prefer separately managed accounts over public ETFs.”], “overview”=>”This episode features ETF expert James Seyffart discussing the massive success of the initial crypto ETFs, noting that Bitcoin ETFs have seen over $55 billion in assets since launch, making them the biggest launch of all time. Seyffart contrasts ETFs with the emerging DAT (Digital Asset Trust) structure, arguing they are complementary rather than competitive, though he highlights the regulatory safety and capital efficiency of ETFs over DATs.”, “themes”=>[“Crypto ETF Performance and Success Metrics”, “ETFs vs. DATs (Digital Asset Trusts) Comparison”, “Institutional Adoption and Holder Composition (13F Analysis)”, “Regulatory Frameworks and Investor Safety (ETF Structure)”, “Future Trajectories for Crypto Investment Products”]}]
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"One of the biggest growth areas I saw for these assets is advisors, right? Like they are the number one users of ETFs. They are by far the largest users of any type of ETFs. And as we predicted, they are the largest known holders aside from retail in the Bitcoin and Ethereum ETFs."
"These are tremendously successful. They are extremely liquid. Institutions are coming online. You can see that via 13F holdings."
"If you just want exposure to the asset, ETF is going to give you beta to the asset. Now, for talking Ethereum for now, we can get into this later. Also, in the US, there's no staking. So like that's actually not that great if you're looking at an Ethereum ETF, like you're giving up, you know, the 3 plus percent yield, whatever it may be right now for staking Ethereum."
"The SEC approved the generic listing standards for ETFs. And what that does is it kind of changes the game for how crypto ETFs can come to be. It streamlines the process."
"They might be doing it like directly with a Coinbase institutional custody relationship or Gemini or, you know, you name Bitcoin crypto that you name it anything else we might."
"if we do get those endowments and pensions, the sovereign wealth funds down the line that come in, they might not necessarily be buying through these ETFs."